The Standard will go into it’s usual twisting and turning sophistry to claim that The Standard isn’t connected in any way to Labour, but that’s just Lynn pretending to be objective.
Their only good blogger is standing for Labour for Christ’s sake (although I think after this weekend he’ll have problems) and the history of the name The Standard has a long association with Labour, so it’s a Labour affiliated blog despite what old man Lynn growls.
If it blogs self defeats like the Labour Party, if it blogs self mutilations like the Labour party and if it blogs self destruction like the Labour Party, it’s a Labour Party Blog.
Reading their commentary on Poto Williams’ totally counter-productive attack on Willie Jackson which has weakened Andrew Little as Leader, eclipsed Labour’s positive Waitangi media and made Labour look divided is political self mutilation at it’s most sadistic.
How do these people think the rest of the electorate are seeing this unbelievable self-immolation? A house divided against itself cannot stand, and yet here’s The Standard actually feeding it???
It’s like their personal ego is more important than the cause they profess to champion.
They’ve gone as far as promoting a letter to Labour Party Council…
…most of this is bullshit and I’ve answered all these so called criticisms in a previous blog. I would imagine those signing are going to find out what happens to factions that threaten the Leadership of a Political Party.
The insanity of these haters and wreckers who are more than happy to destroy Labour’s unity to push for a divisive attack on a working class Maori who runs two Urban Maori Organisations that provide welfare programmes directly in the poorest urban areas of NZ is beyond belief.
This is as self defeating as the Greens decision to run in Mt Albert, voters will get the perception that the Left is actually more interested in fighting itself than beating the Government.
It’s like these people intend to cleanse Labour of anyone who doesn’t fit their definition of Left rather than win the 2017 General Election and they can’t see how that looks to the wider electorate.
I imagine the riot act is about to be read behind the scenes. Labour doesn’t need this with a by-election starting tomorrow.
willy jackson has made mistakes for which he has admitted, what is the repentance period for forgivness. willy will be an asset to whoever, because he will fight and see the issue through to the end.
…agreed….Jackson and Tamihere paid for their radio commentary indiscretions/insensitivities (‘crimes’) as I recall…they apologised! ….what more do some people want ?….blood?
the politically correct middle class goes crazy and it will destroy Labour for the working class and Maori…Tamihere and Jackson and Hone harawira are where the working class is at
Re Tamihere and Jackson. I think the issue with them is that there is no place for what they said (on public radio) in a progressive party. Apologies be damned, these guys are just are just a pair of talk back dorks.
Labour a “progressive party” ?….not the way they treated the Mana Party and Hone Harawira!
Roger Douglas “progressive”?
It would have been progressive to have supported David Cunliffe …the grassroots members choice
Thanks Chooky….. that is exactly my point. Labour sort of claims to be progressive ,but is just going back to the “middle” now to try and be ‘safe’ for the unwashed (who basically only vote for wiifm).
By the way I did strongly support Cunliffe…. the grassroots members choice.
Come on Martin – do you really believe that the likes of Jackson and O’Connor should potentially be parachuted into Labour’s caucus with blind acquiescence? Both have history and give more than enough reason to be subject to scrutiny, which was obviously not adequately provided at management level. Both may have their merits but there are no doubt plenty of alternative candidates who could easily cross a higher bar and not create ‘dissension in the ranks’. Andrew Little, a master of mediation, had probably foreseen the potential problems but appears to have deferred and supported the contentious ‘names’ as potential candidates. The problem is not with the critics but with a belief at some level, that the hierarchy knows best. Isn’t it the same sort of thinking that ‘Trumped’ the US Democrats?
Are you delusional? Honestly, or drunk?
I’m going to use small words so you can understand.
Where. The. Fuck. Do. You. Think. Labour. Gain. 10. Points?
You think Labour will win with a narrow electorate that doesn’t bring Urban Maori and the crime frightened working class with it?
Do you honestly believe that do you?
You are why the Labour Party will not from a Government in 2017.
It would be more disturbing if that avatar wasn’t dunk
Disagree with The Standard and they throw around bans like confetti at a 1960’s wedding. The incredible small minds that purvey that blog at times in defence of some perfection they allege to want cannot and will not ever see the big picture or even some of it.
Blogger “Weka” who sucks up 90% of the oxygen in some blogs is determined to see National reelected and I wonder sometimes is National smarter than they look.
Fuck only knows what The Standard is supposed to represent but what it does represent is everything that is wrong with the left of politics!
Still, Poto Williams is the main problem here and needs to go!
+100 man, the way that thread was admin-trolled and anyone who tried to debate got slammed, I just decided not to even try posting. At least over here you can have out an issue and post your arguments. Those guys just use their method of invoking ‘site rules’ to smash anyone who isn’t in accordance with their views and ban them if they question moderators’ commitment to real debate.
When they lose the election will the Not Labour Blog have all the navel gazing pieces and recriminations about “Why Labour Lost the Election”?
+100…. about ‘The Standard’ and Weka ( I and others were called “rape apologists” for supporting Julian Assange)
Poto Williams should be called into line…and Willy Jackson should stay…John Tamihere should be invited back into the fold ( like Williams he is a talented politician with lots of draw)…no one gets it right all of the time .
The Labour Party needs to be reinvigorated if they stand a chance
Mana Party and Harawira should be allowed to stand unopposed in TTT
+100…. about ‘The Standard’ and Weka ( I and others were called “rape apologists” for supporting Julian Assange)
Poto Williams should be called into line…and Willy Jackson should stay…John Tamihere should be invited back into the fold ( like Williams he is a talented politician with lots of draw)…no one gets it right all of the time .
The Labour Party needs to be reinvigorated if they stand a chance
Mana Party and Harawira should be allowed to stand unopposed in TTT
It sounds like Little did speak to Williams and others prior to the announcement, so presumably what happened is that Williams faced the choice of obeying the boss or making a passive aggressive snowflake storm on social media to undermine him. We saw similar when Robertson supporters realised Cunliffe was going to win. They clearly have no idea what it’s like for those of us with regular everyday jobs. If we disagree with a decision our boss makes we can negotiate and try to get some middle ground or concessions, but if that doesn’t work then it’s on us either to just deal, or to walk away and do something else. But you see the way snowflake wing Labour MPs deal with these things, there’s obviously no capacity to negotiate and otherwise deal with not getting everything they want. If things don’t go your way, have a social media whinge. In my world, and that of most people I know, that gets you fired. Someone needs to try explaining to them that this is how it looks to us: childish, spoilt, out of touch. It’s part of growing up to realise that you don’t always win. You’d think by now the snowflake win would have tasted enough of that in even the narrow sense of experiencing it that they’ve had with leadership contests and general elections.
+100…the Nacts have it over the Labour Party on how they handle issues like these…laugh it off in public and in private deal with it
+100…the Nacts have it over the Labour Party on how they handle issues like these…laugh it off in public and in private deal with it
I’ve never seen that website so deranged.
I have.
Have to agree with the Standard on this one, I’m not a fan of Jackson.
Just the Charter schools repulses me, the roast buster comments and god knows what else the guy has said.
Even when he fronted Waatea 5th Estate I thought he was too right wing as a commentator and did not seem to be able to get a good commentary going.
I’m not a big fan of Jackson either, but I’m also not a fan of hanging, drawing, and quoting him. As for Poto Williams, she clearly enjoys being in Opposition because any further tantrums from her could consign her and her mates to that role for at least another three years.
If she had the courage of her convictions, she would say that if Jackson is selected, she will resign from Parlament. I wonder why she hasn’t said that. Weak and ineffectual.
Isn’t Willie Jackson a FAR better fit for the Maori (and eveb Mana) Party? Why is even wanting to ride the Labour bandwagon? All the them sweet perks of political “service”, perhaps?
Yep Jackson is more of a fit with The Maori Party than Labour.
I’d also be concerned with how his views are pretty repellant for women so while Labour may be thinking he’ll pull in some sort of Maori vote, I think they will lose more from the general populous, especially women with children.
Labour already has Nash with pretty extreme ‘bloke’ views. Too many extreme testosterone driven views right of centre! Those extreme bloke types also have TOP and NZ First if the anti ‘PC” crowd don’t want to vote Natz or ACT.
In short going away from middle NZ territory with Jackson. He’s already causing trouble just having his name mentioned with Labour!
Just wow, you start at one point, then veer off onto another. How many days you going to flog your dead horse? Because at this point all I’m seeing is some cleverly word sexism, coupled with name calling.
I’m guessing you don’t read much on the standard, as you keep quote weka as a labour party hack, that is so funny, no wait – actually that really sad. Maybe if you took the time, to actually read what she writes. Then again she might just be too much emerald army for you. I’m seeing a theme in your work here – sexist much?
At the moment all you seem to be showing us is that you don’t support civil rights. Sad day indeed.
I read a lot of the standard. I get what you’re trying to say by turning my observation that the left is powerless and try’s to generate energy from labour when in fact surplus is generated by exploiting the free energy from the sun.
Stop trying to take my observation and turn it into a fad. You have no idea
Whoa, getting all Georges Bataille up in here.
Adam sounds like he’s been listening to Marx theory of labour. It’s wrong
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