Gerry Brownlee: Deploying Troops In Iraq Helps Make NZ Queers Safer

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I’m a queer and I’ll tell you what I think. Gerry if you want to help protect in queers here from violence, some war in Iraq is the least likely place to start. Start here Gerry, start at home. Let’s start with you.

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Yesterday in an interview with Radio New Zealand we heard Brownlee drop this little nugget:

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Reporter Susie Ferguson then goes on to ask if American involvement in this mission made them safer from situations like that in Orlando, a question that Brownlee evades.

Take a minute with it Gerry.

Now, like others I have at times fallen into the trap of ‘splaining how a tragedy supports my hopes for change in the socio-political arena. I’ve been insensitive before, for sure.

But it takes some serious mental gymnastics to connect the dots on how the Orlando tragedy indicates New Zealand should continue participation in the Iraq war.

As someone who is queer I was deeply saddened to hear about what occurred in Orlando and it mattered to me personally. Because the idea that there has been a mass murder of queers anywhere in the world is legitimately terrifying. I didn’t write on the issue, I waited. I waited and read because I wanted to develop a comprehensive understanding what happened and why. I grieved. And after that consideration and taking in the spectrum of information I’ve heard it seems that the primary motivation for the crime was less of a homophobic hate crime and less of a Muslim extremist attack and more a case of an enraged, misanthropic narcissist taking out his existential rage on people in his own community. You see Omar Mateen wasn’t just a Muslim with a homophobic father he was also queer and routinely attended Pulse (in a social capacity) for many years.

By all accounts he was an abusive, a self-hating, rage filled narcissist with no series ties to IS and familiarity with the case indicates it’s quite a stretch to claim he “took his mandate from a terrorist organisation”.

So when misogyny/misanthropy, narcissism, hate or mass murder of queers, is used as a springboard to bolster up the rationale on how New Zealand – a country distant to Iraq and America in politics and position – should participate in a war that’s truly crass.

The deaths in Orlando were about one viciously angry person. Omar talked briefly about the IS but by all accounts it would seem it was his relationship with his father that was most problematic. Omar was an American, born and raised. It was in the United States that he learned hate, not in Iraq.

And let’s be clear. This is Brownlee here. He’s transparent. He’s agenda driven and he has a terrible track record when it comes to LGBT rights. In fact he’s been staunchly opposed to them. If he cared about the safety of LGBT people in New Zealand he would be talking about ways to support greater social safety for our community. He would show compassion for those in Orlando and draw attention to the fact that the shooting affected people who were primarily of colour and queer.

He would not have voted against marriage equality (which he did). He wouldn’t be making homophobic comments about Brokeback Mountain in parliament (which he did). He wouldn’t argue publicly that celebrants who don’t want to marry LGBT people need “more protection of their rights”.Oh yeah, and he wouldn’t be notorious for his own personal acts of violence (remember when he attacked that protester?) not to mention horribly racist toward Maori people while in the public domain.

He doesn’t care about safeguarding the lives of queer people, never has and never will. He is a selfish, arrogant, warmonger. The Minister of Defence cares only about justifying the New Zealand involvement in war and much of the queer community – if we’re given the chance to speak for ourselves – are opposed to this. He has no right to use our lives and our fears of violence in order to push his agenda. We can speak for ourselves.

I’m a queer and I’ll tell you what I think. Gerry if you want to help protect in queers here from violence, some war in Iraq is the least likely place to start. Start here Gerry, start at home. Let’s start with you.

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29 Comments

  1. I heard that comment from Suzie Ferguson. Epic analysis in one pithy question.

    Also a brilliant assessment of Brownlee’s exploitation of the Orlando shooting to further National’s war-policy in the middle east.

    I have no doubt that the Orlando shooter was psychologically unhinged (by definition, a mass-murderer has to be) and for a New Zealand politician to draw a link between such a tragedy and out war-policy is about as insane as the Right can get.

    The true mark of this insanity is that the Right doesn’t recognise this and actually defends it.

  2. George Hendry says:

    Well said, Jessie.

    • CLEANGREEN says:

      You make more sense than pentagon’s Mr Key as a spokesman and yankee doodle dandy, Gerry or anyone else that talks of starting a war in the middle east does.

      Well done Jessie.

      • Bert says:

        Well said Cleangreen. Jessie backs it up with this evidence…

        “He would not have voted against marriage equality (which he did). He wouldn’t be making homophobic comments about Brokeback Mountain in parliament (which he did). He wouldn’t argue publicly that celebrants who don’t want to marry LGBT people need “more protection of their rights”.Oh yeah, and he wouldn’t be notorious for his own personal acts of violence (remember when he attacked that protester?) not to mention horribly racist toward Maori people while in the public domain.”

        While Gerry gleefully goes about with his bully boy tactics, as that is all they are, most would see him as cringe-worthy.

  3. John W says:

    The whole business of supporting/ promoting / sustaining war on others is a sickness of the mind.

    Some mothers have them and we suffer under their dogma of hating others and/or just trampling justice and fairness for their own greed.

    The well part of society are generally non combative but suffer the consequences wrought by the psychopathic power brokers who have hijacked the system.

    Fear and lies are used to confuse and immobilise dissent.

  4. Dave says:

    Gerry was talking about protecting everybody. Whether you agree with him or not, to make it a queer issue is plain stupid, in fact the above is one of the most silly posts I have seen on here.

    • Sam Sam says:

      How do you equat training an army that staffed the entire ISIS terror network with preventing terror?

      • Priss says:

        Good question, Sam.

        Dave, your call.

        • Dave says:

          Identify potential victims for a start. To say that Orlando was simply an anti gay attack is just silly.

          • Sally's Husband says:

            “To say that Orlando was simply an anti gay attack is just silly.”

            Really, Dave? What else would you call it? The guy was a homophobe and he took out his bigotry on unarmed men and women.

            The Orlando shooter may’ve invoked ISIS, but he had no connections to that group (according to the FBI) and so was just cloaking his bigotry in something bigger than he was. I’m surprised you don’t understand the workings of a crazed mind.

          • Sam Sam says:

            Let me say this in a different way. How will extending NZs Iraq deployment by 18 months effect Americas mass shooting problem?

            You are being extremely vague about the links between the Orlando shootings and fighting in the Middle East. So again what is the link?

          • Winnie says:

            So ISIS warriors in Iraq are going to come over here Dave and shoot men and women in gay bars. That is the most non-sequitur piece of bullishit propaganda I’ve ever heard, since global warming was denied.

            Go where your strengths are Gerry and start being a poster boy for the IEAT war on obesity in NZ instead of on ISIS.

      • Pedro says:

        Come on Dave we are waiting for your enlightened response to Sams question.

  5. Mike in Auckland says:

    Wow, a completely new meaning to the name “Rainbow Warrior”.

    • Bert says:

      Yes and now we have Key stating we won’t pay ransoms to bring N.Z. home unless of course it was Max being detained.

      • Mike in Auckland says:

        With Max it would be handled discretely, no government involvement, the PM ringing up a confidential number that can contact the hostage takers, and out of his own bank account Key would swiftly release the money needed, no further questions asked. The man has double standards, when it comes to the likes of him as privileged prick, or those other richies, they are free to do what they see fit, as for any ordinary mortal NZer, with no rich relatives, they get the same treatment as those on WINZ benefits, a fuck off and get lost message.

        • Bert says:

          Nail on the head Mike!

          • Trevor Mills says:

            I would be more inclined to believe Key would stoop to drain our tax coffers and economy to pay for Max to be released, rather than use his own money he has stolen from various deals and market investments. But the deal would still be done discreetly by all means, as would be Keys standards, until someone cottoned on and caught him out.

  6. Dave says:

    paying ransoms makes every Kiwi overseas a target, its a no brainer.

    • In Vino says:

      No-Brainer sounds right coming from you Dave. You fail to answer hard questions, and keep posting facile inanities.

      Or was Sam’s question unintelligible to you?

    • Sam Sam says:

      That’s obvious but how is that relevant to fighting in the Middle East and mass shootings in America?

      • ALH84001 says:

        Sam, you just keep posting those inconvenient questions to Dave. It’s really puts him of his crayons and rusk.

    • Winnie says:

      Look Dave – I know you are annoyed that someone broke into your apartment and stole all your books…..

      ……… especially because you hadn’t finished colouring them in yet.

  7. Priss says:

    Why do I get the dread feeling that Key is softening us up for a full scale deployment in Iraq? The man gives me the jitters!!

    I have nephews in the armed forces and I am desperately trying to get therm to resign. This is no time to be serving in the military . Not when National is playing games with our soldiers lives!!

  8. Dave says:

    How will extending NZs Iraq deployment by 18 months effect Americas mass shooting problem? it wont, much, it may help a little. The mass shooting problem in the U.S. has a variety of causes.

    • Pedro says:

      Still havent answered Sams question Dave. Where is the link between mass shootings in the USA and the situation in Iraq?
      As for your ridiculous statement that Brownlee is trying to protect everyone, lol. Are you for real? You actually believe that?

    • Andrea says:

      “The mass shooting problem in Iraq has a variety of causes” There you go. All fixed.

      If it’s really about Islamic militancy then why aren’t we helping Nigeria and neighbouring states with the Boko Haram problem?

      Or Burma/Myanmar with their internal religious differences and conflicts?

      China?

      Indonesia?

      Yemen?

      Turkey and the Kurds?

      Why just a nasty and bloody sectarian war in Iraq? Heck! We didn’t even send anyone in to Northern Ireland, and their sectarian savagery has been going on since at least (wait for it!) September 11 – 1649.

      You know, I think I’d rather have Ron Mark as Minister of Defence. At the very least – he actually cares about military personnel. (Remember his battle with the labour govt about the LAVs?)

      All Gerry Brownlee is fit for is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD9btgwI-I
      which does nothing for peace or prosperity (except for the usual few).

    • Sam Sam says:

      You need to do your research properly. The only example of combating mass shootings was When Australia PM John Howard brought in gun control laws in the 2000’s. In Aussie mass shootings of 5 or more people occurred every 1.4 years. After the reforms it jumped to 20 years. Is that the kind of variety you are talking about?

    • ALH84001 says:

      ” it may help a little”

      I’m stuffed if I can understand what “little” it “may” help, Dave. Can you be a little more concise? Because at this stage I’m thinking you’re not being very clear in what you’re meaning.



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