It’s not just the lies National spin to justify their blood money entrance fee to the 5 eyes club, it’s that they manipulate people’s fears to do it. Here is what that oaf Gerry Brownlee had to say today to justify our open ended war in Iraq…
“We’re not insulated from the sort of thing that we saw in Orlando.” – Gerry Brownlee, re NZ extension of troop deployment in Iraq
…Fuck right off Gerry. Go on mate. Fuck. Right. Off. Don’t use Orlando to justify National’s despicable spinelessness to failed American foreign policy. You are sending our troops to suck up to America, not to defend us from homophobic hate crimes.
Stick to fucking over Christchurch clown.
Our involvement in Iraq makes it more likely NZ will be a target of ISIS not less…..surely the punters have enough logic to see this????
But that is not the whole issue. But what a pathetic spin line from a pathetic man.
Probably not. Desert people don’t like the cold and would likely transit throwing NZ on to Australia to get up to mischief.
What Iv observed is the networks of terrorist leadership are all western trained. Makes sense if you want to stop terror would be to stop training em eh.
It’s one thing to be deep in the desert believing your own religious bullshit but throw in 2-4 years of training and mentoring. Throw in some stupid trade pact that values capital over labour and you see the spread of automation across the Middle East killing an already shitty jobs market an presto you just created 100-200 million refugees.
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The desert gets freezing cold every night, you ignorant clown
finish this sentence: because it’s cold in the desert that means………………..
That’s some vodo logic there general. Actually emotions don’t really come into military decision making. Command decisions are based on moving resources from A to B in the quickest manner.
You’re just chat chit
I thought you were banned, “Asheer”??
[He is. – ScarletMod]
John Key on One News talked about the possibility of a “Lone Wolf” ISIS gunman.
I’m keeping my pussy locked up, just in case.
You definitely rock Winnie,
I think your cat is safe for sure.
Aaah, the old lone gunman myth. Have the CIA given Key an offer he couldn’t refuse?
Look out for a drill happening anytime soon.
Despicable comments from a despicable Cabinet minister, representing a despicable failed government, attempting to disguise FJK kowtowing to the US, to assist cleaning up the filthy mess it created in the Middle East!
It won’t stop here either! Wait for the time to be extended yet again in the near future!
Is this part of NatzKEY’s $28B spend on defence?
This was a pathetic and shameful comment given to try and raise fear in the population. Fear of the unknown, fear then turns to racist attacks and comments. A person in his position should have known better.
I am disgusted.
I remember Lange in parliment after he resigned as PM in 1989 saying he was proud that as PM he never went to Washington to grovel !
Never went to Washington to grovel and was proud of our independent foreign policy which by then included our nuclear free status which was after massive pressure from western allies mainly America was signed into law.
This another example of what happens when you let NZ intrests be compromised to help clean up a mess the Americans created in the first place.
Another John Key deception.
We will be in Iraq long after when Key said we wouldn’t.
He has promised a lot behind closed doors.
Remember John Key’s trip to Washington where his cover excuse – to watch baseball – to try cover up his grovelling!
I’m glad you picked this up Martin. It was just so casual/throw-away that it could have been overlooked.
Gerry should be given a new military rank of ‘Non Sequitur in Chief’.
He gets to hang around at banquets and his only duty is to shout out something amusingly nonsensical when the port is served.
He looks like he hangs around at all the banquets
Yes what Gerry meant to say was
“We’re not insulated from the sort of thing that we saw in KFC also.”
This is the price we are paying for sucking up to Uncle Sam and their war machine.
$20 Billion plus, is a huge amount of money that could well of been spent elsewhere in our small economy.
And just what do we get for that $20 billion ?
A few bits and pieces that would be wiped out in 10 seconds in a real
war.
Good old Uncle Sam, he knows a sucker when he sees one.
100% stuff the politicians
2000% stuff the politicians
National = “ship of fools”
There goes the money from selling off half the energy companies to “mum and dad investors” or MADI’s.
Reminds me of WMD’s.
Same old bullshit, same old bullshit acronyms, different flags.
National = Sabre-rattling warmongers.
Next, National, ACT, United Future and Maori Party will be inviting (possible) nuclear ships and an arms conventions into NZ.
10000% Winnie.
Playing with the devil, this Government is!
As the US is now controlled by powerful foreign armaments industrialists who also began the last world war!!!!!
Actually it’s a really pathetic amount and it doesn’t preclude the government spending in other areas to alleviate poverty.
We have enough physical resources in NZ to both defend ourselves well and ensure that everyone has a good living standard. What we don’t have, and no other country has either, is enough resources to maintain even one rich person.
This is more a reply to Bomber’s original assertion for his blog post:
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/06/13/guns-and-hate-caused-orlando-mass-shooting-not-isis-or-islam/
Obviously he had no way of knowing the truth, since their was an obvious media spin of the actual facts (likely political), but:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/06/20/read-partial-911-transcripts-orlando-shootings/86138246/
To say at this point that “Guns and hate caused Orlando mass shooting – not ISIS or Islam” at this point is more than a little disingenuous. Just read the transcript. Really some sort of retraction should be posted (although I appreciate this isn’t a newspaper and presumably doesn’t conform to the Standards Authority).
There is no actual evidence that this guy had any links to any terrorist orginisation. A senate commeitee even hauled the CIA chief in for a pleas explain what you’re doing with the hundreds of billions you’re getting to fight terror.
So the repeat the words of the CIA chief. Omar was put on a terror watch list, investigated twice by the FBI, reviewed again by CIA analysts and was then taken off the terror list because he isn’t a terrorist.
Sam,
Yet another lie today to add to the Planet Key lie index!
some record Key’s own index at over 400 now and his cabinet must also be adding to the NatZ lie index also now!
The CIA chief had to admit Omar had no terror links because if he hadn’t admitted that then huge question would have to be answered about what homeland security has done with the 2 trillion dollar budget
100% Nitrium.
Brownlee reminds me of Sargent Schultz I hear nothing , I see nothing, I say nothing but I eat everything
You forgot ‘I know nothing’!
I also forgot I do nothing
I forgot I do nothing
“I know nothing, but I do remember when it is time for a banquet”
Winnie – that is unfair. Gerry is a lovely guy and we chat often. He is big-boned that is all.
Yeah Gerry is a lovely guy alright but the guy he threw down the stairs at a National party meeting for speaking out might feel differently !!
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/201805250/brownlee-details-reasons-for-new-iraq-commitment
This is pretty close to exact:
“… Are you saying that deploying NZ troops to Iraq makes NZ safer from homicidal homophobes?”
“Ah, well you used the description that’s um, generally bandied about, the reality is he claimed allegiance to ISIL, ah, and he did that because he was, ah, however he was radicalised, it was certainly modern technology that got to him. We are not going to shut our air waves just on the basis of something like this but we do need to make sure that ah, when there is a big international effort, 66 countries in a coalition ah, trying to defeat these people, that we play our part.”
“So has the American involvement in this mission made them safe from situations like Orlando?”
“Well clearly they experienced the Orlando situation and what I think that just points out is that countries that we would consider ourselves to be similar to in terms of freedom, freedom of movement and expression etc. ah, can be caught up in all this.”
What all this does point out Gerry Brownlee, is that you are a fuckwit.
Just because some of your dumb supporters are even dumber than you does not mean there are not some who can recognise a low class bullshitter trying to get away with bullshit.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/201805250/brownlee-details-reasons-for-new-iraq-commitment
This is pretty close to exact:
“… Are you saying that deploying NZ troops to Iraq makes NZ safer from homicidal homophobes?”
“Ah, well you used the description that’s um, generally bandied about, the reality is he claimed allegiance to ISIL, ah, and he did that because he was, ah, however he was radicalised, it was certainly modern technology that got to him. We are not going to shut our air waves just on the basis of something like this but we do need to make sure that ah, when there is a big international effort, 66 countries in a coalition ah, trying to defeat these people, that we play our part.”
“So has the American involvement in this mission made them safe from situations like Orlando?”
“Well clearly they experienced the Orlando situation and what I think that just points out is that countries that we would consider ourselves to be similar to in terms of freedom, freedom of movement and expression etc. ah, can be caught up in all this.”
What all this does point out Gerry Brownlee, is that you are a fuckwit.
Just because some of your dumb supporters are even dumber than you does not mean there are not some who can recognise a low class bullshitter trying to get away with bullshit.
Give Sgt. Fatso a weapn, he wouldn’t know which way it should be pointed, let alone how to load and use one.
the shooter was NOT a member of ISIL but a lone wolf killer who hated gay people and who had a history of domestic violence – was not a terrorist attack but an attack by someone with a personal agenda
NMN Jackson, I think that sums it up fairly well. The righties need to make the Orlando shooter an extremist jihadist operative so they can inflate the bloated image of ISIS as a bogey-man. Without a bogey-man people have nothing to be frightened of, and Righties can’t infect us with their paranoia and xenophobia.
If a left alliance was on power they would be so busy forming focus groups, arguing and so on that a decision would never be made. At least he has some balls.
Dave, no, that’s the Nats you’re thinking of. Happy to help you clear that up.
By the way, Dave, watch out for “having some balls”. On a battlefield, they tend to get shot of. (Mind you, Brownlee would be safe in such an instance. He doesn’t have any.)
Shades of Vietnam when I n was enlisted as a “National Serviceman, and I wonder if we are going to get another decade now of compulsory military training service as I went through from 1964-70???
Cost blowout that we can’t afford but Uncle Sam may print more dollars to bribe this was mongering government to participate in these war games again?
When I heard that foolish man try to connect the killings in Orlando with our government’s decision to extend the deployment of NZ troops in Iraq – well let’s just say my reaction was so strong that I was cautioned to calm down by my nearest and dearest. “You’ll have a heart attack!”
What makes it so infuriating is that I believe Brownlee knows he’s talking bullshit but knows that many NZers will believe it.
It’s worse than Fox news!
“Stick to fucking over Christchurch clown”
NO.
Thank you.
Well said Martyn, spot on !!!
I remember Sergeant Shultz as a big, soft fellow who saw nuzzink. Brownlee is a narcissistic bully who really does need his shit rearranged.
If you see him… do so. Go on. Make him run and make him squeek.
There is still rather a lot of oil in Iraq that can be extracted for a profit and shipped to NZ and elsewhere.
And Iraq still provides a good fairly launch-pad for a ‘coalition of the willing’ attack on Iran.
Everything else is bollocks, especially if it comes from a government minister.
Yes, every war seems to have a theatre backdrop of oil reserves eh!
So why was the disastrous Hitler/Rommel campaign staged in Libya-Egypt that was a big second front of the war in the middle east in 1940?
It was so far away from Western Europe then as the centre of war?
http://www.city-data.com/forum/history/1271389-thoughts-about-why-hitler-didnt-invade.html
What he’s wearing is choking him.
Watch for those ship visits coming up !!!
That is the next massive attack on our nuke status and the lies and misinformation which have already started.
Key and NATIONAL are declaring war on our hard won nuclear free iconic law.
Brash did promise it would be gone by lunchtime, he wasn’t specific about the week, month or year !!!!
Mmmm I remember watching some high ranking American General sitting in the UN and lying to the world about the dangers that the world faced.
Seems like the world has become a far more dangerous place since Team America thought its corporate interests and the protection of oil supply, shit sorry I mean, the Middle East needed democracy and rescuing from tyrannical leaders who were killing thousands of their citizens…fuck wait on, whats changed? Why are they there for again and for whose interests?
I know, I better ask Gerry.
Gerry mangles the one weapon he thinks he can use – the long bow.
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