TPPA: Trans Pacific Partnership talks fail in face of NZ, Canada dairy clash
Pacific Rim trade ministers have failed to clinch a deal to free up trade between a dozen nations after a dispute flared between Japan and North America over autos, New Zealand dug in over dairy trade and no agreement was reached on monopoly periods for next-generation drugs.
Hahahahahahahaha. This is simply the best outcome. Key can’t come back to NZ and pretend that he’s walked away from the TPPA and claim he is some sort of patriot for doing so as the entire fiasco has clearly been shut down and NZ won’t sign up to the largest erosion of our democratic sovereignty we’ve ever faced.
Key now returns with his tail between his legs and a grumpy Tim Groser.
The corporations and American national security interests behind the deal won’t stop trying of course and the need to stop this reigniting is more important than ever.
The next Table Talk live stream from IKA will be hosted by Wallace Chapman on Tuesday 11th August and debate the TPPA – bookings are essential.
Checkmate: White King (BRICS) White Rook (Gold Reserves) beats Black Knight (The Club of Rome – Committee of 300 the debtors)
What do you call someone who fails and then tries again hoping for a different result?
Don’t try jonkey. Back off!
Jonkey the dockey for Bilderberg lost the deal of his life for now did he?
Bilderberg will crucify him if he doesn’t keep the pressure on for this insane deal.
Jonkey cant stand loosing even if he needs to resort to cheating & Lying he will sell his mothers soul and ours to win at any cost so keep a very sharp eye on his movements as he slops around the globe on our money.
He may be ordered now to meet with the top tier of the Bilderberger Group and explain why he didn’t deliver his promise to sell out NZ to get over the line here.
He wont sleep well tonight at all.
We now may find the Bilderberg machinery may bring our economy down to almost Greek junk status bankruptcy and force this Government to capitulate as Greek Government did two weeks ago.
Watch this month for signs folks.
Beats Black King (of course)
Again I mean Black King. Must have a thing for Knights, I guess. 😀 Have given up asking for duplicated entries to be deleted. TDB takes no notice.
That’s one for the good guys.
Bet Key is regretting bringing up the fact medicines will go up in price if TPPA is ever signed …now people will have time to hold him to account over that possibility .I think he only mentioned it at the last moment so he could say ” told you so “…
Now…on the home front….I wonder what bearing this will have on the traitor Key, – keeping in mind he was only brought over here to provide the ‘soft face’ of National after Don Brash’s Orewa speech and the ‘gone by lunchtime ‘ comment and get the TTPA done and dusted ….
I guess the answer to that is if Crosby / Texter and National polls report back to Washington advising to keep Key on as their man to push for Round two as their advocate for USA hegemony in the South Pacific…..
Isn’t it a shame we cant have a real PM in this country who actually gives a damn about this country and its sovereignty….
All we ever seem to get these days are sell outs and traitors , sell outs and traitors.
As Chris Trotter alluded to in his latest blog entry that might have fared better on WhaleOil, my bet is The John Key sells this as some sort of “victory” for NZ – saying he wouldn’t budge on signing away something “that wasn’t in NZ’s best interests” – i.e. he cynically spins this politically as showing his National Government can “be trusted to make the right decisions” on our behalf. “In The John Key We Trust” (I can actually taste some of my own sick even writing that). Hopefully those with any functioning neurons won’t buy this total BS and The John Key LOSES support over this whole fucking TPP fiasco.
Can’t help but smile today as I had planned a simple post if the deal was done; “mr key, what have you done?”
I am pleased the talks fell over, but is it really the end of it? Let’s just hope the greed and self interest of all these leaders continue to cancel each other out
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Heard and saw the news, on Al Jazeera, TVNZ, TV3 and listened to the BBC, it is DEAD, at least for months to come, probably for longer, and that may just be a blessing for us all.
You might be interested to tune in to Ritchie Allen Show Episodes 8 and 9. Brits having a shocking time with their Government. Also interesting to learn Brit PM in Singapore while TPPA talks ongoing. Wonder why he was in this neck of the world.
GOT IT!!!! 😀 😀 😀 Check out “Brunei connection to Bilderberg”
Canada was the one to refuse to sign because of their dairy deal or lack of one, NZ followed suit but if Canada hadn’t spoken up ,would NZ have done so?
America and Japan also didn’t agree over car sales.
Grosser says he still confident but as Mike in Auckland says the news is the TPP could dead in water, no meeting planned after this one.
With elections coming up in America,this might have been last chance. Could it be the intention was there by other countries to scupper the deal.?
NZ is going on about Dairy deal which is important but the Medicines and Corporations tricks are the things that will ruin NZ.
So RIP to theTPPA.and the end of Keys rule over us .
The BRICS can now move forward and hopefully overcome the Bilderbergers and Elite Corps.
capcha answer 8x1are 8 which is correct,so please “no error “
Alas, I believe offers of requiescat in pace to the TPPA are premature; a deal this significant for the corporate interests it truly represents will not be so easily vanquished. In a few months time, expect the clasping hand of the oligarchs to burst through the topsoil a’la the memorable scene in Carrie. The TPPA isn’t dead; its been dealt a blow but in reality this is just a temporary setback in business negotiations, a situation familiar to anyone familiar with business and negotiation. Given the scale and scope of the patrons’ goal and the decades of maneuvering and manipulation already invested in implementing its command and conquer plan, sadly and most definitely this is not a decisive win for the fourth estate.
The TPP, along with TTIP, and RCEP (Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership covering much of the asia-pacific including NZ), is basically a regionalized reinvention of the MAI (Multi-lateral Agreement on Investment), which was scuppered about a decade ago. My take is that the TPP itself is dead, but Michael is right that the corporatist agenda will not be stopped by this set-back, anymore than it was stopped by the failure of the MAI.
We still have TISA to fight, which is in many ways worse than TPP. It proposes to allow corporations to force governments to outsource/ privatize the storage of their citizens’ private information, meaning that private data is subject to the laws of the country where the corporation is based:
http://www.1stcloud.com/nz/data-sovereignty/
It seems to me that the only way to stop corporations constantly coming back with these corporatist agendas is to replace corporations with a democratic form of economic management that it not inherently psychopathic (see the doco “The Corporation”). For example, there are plenty of examples of successful, democratically-managed cooperatives, owned by their workers or consumers (or some hybrid of both).
So missing out in being part of a trade pact that would cover 40% of the world is the best possible outcome???
No, the best possible outcome would have been if, after sorting out the various issues, we managed to come to an agreement which opened up vast new markets for our goods.
I’m not saying that we should have signed it as it is, but I can’t understand why people are against the TPPA in principle (details yes, but those can always be sorted).
You must be joking Kevin ,details cant be sorted after the deals been signed. Big pharma isn’t a detail its a major problem by anyones book. Why should NZ accept big pharma with nothing in it for us but high prices and the breakup of our own pharmacutecal that is doing fine without interference and control of the American version
The fact that any big corporation can sue us if they don’t get their own way to our detriment, is not a detail.
If we had the benefits of just trade and not a fight to remain afloat after the big boys have stolen everything we have. We have lost enough in the preparation for TPPA to affect us,ie asset sales ,privatisation all for the benefit of corporations and Keys cronies,
nothing in TPPA is of benefit to us and John Key never intended it to.
8-7=1 capcha correct no error please
Vast markets for our goods?
What fucking goods?
We are now a Finance, Insurance and Real Estate economy. The producers of actual goods (as opposed to the virtual goods of the neolib foamers) no longer count for anything in our present economy.
I think it has just been established that, with apologies to Chris Trotter, Tim Groser is about as clever as the next man. And the next man is McCully.
Key dosnt appear to be in Maui he was in Pukekoe last week,seems Grosser is out on his own,unless Key went for the weekend. We don’t get to know where Key is half of the time,is he lying low?
Can he get any lower than he is? 🙂
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