John Key’s personal attack pet, Cameron Slater, must denigrate and slander Kim Dotcom’s name and the right wing media and punditry all need to have their spin lines set because of the threat Kim poses to the Prime Minister.
Chris Barton has written possibly the best explanation and back ground to the legal case against Kim Dotcom in the NZ Herald today…
Disclosure was at the heart of the Supreme Court appeal that Dotcom has just lost. Four judges ruled that all that was required in the extradition hearing was a summary – “record of case” – of the evidence provided by the United States. The dissenting voice was Chief Justice Dame Sian Elias who pointed out the Extradition Act states the record of case “must include both ‘a summary of the evidence acquired to support the request for the surrender of the person’ and ‘other relevant documents, including photographs and copies of documents’.” She also noted that natural justice requires those charged are to be informed “in detail of the nature of the charge”, and are to have “the right to adequate time and facilities to prepare a defence”. On the face of it, it’s hard to disagree with such a fundamental right – especially when facing the prospect of being locked up in a United States prison. The majority of Supreme Court judges however said, despite the wording of our Act, natural justice was overruled by our international obligations and the purposes of our extradition treaty with the United States. They did say: “Requesting states, however, owe a duty of candour and good faith to the extradition court. They must disclose any evidence that would render worthless, undermine or seriously detract from the evidence upon which they rely, whether on its own or in combination with material that is in the requesting state’s possession or is drawn to its attention by the requested persons or the Court.”
Bizarre, because that’s exactly the sort of information Dotcom is seeking, but can’t get -essentially arguing that the case against him as presented is one sided and with inferences and bias. And that he has a right to see the documents and context from which the case arose.
…the reason the Right are waging a full scale sleaze and smear campaign against Kim is because the NSA will have evaluated what Snowden is about to release around Kim’s July court date alongside the evidence Kim has to prove Key has lied to the people of NZ and they know they must discredit Kim as much as they can before that information gets made public. The Right desperately need to throw as many Nazi slurs and fabrications at Dotcom because come the Court case, they know the evidence against Key and what our intelligence agencies have actually been getting up to will erupt 8 weeks out from an election.
Let the Right throw as much slime as they like, Key’s infamous teflon suit is months away from being stained beyond repair.
There is so much to come out. Like the former talkback host who joked about wanting to call their book ‘my struggle’. The same host now linked to Dotcom
Like the former talkback host who joked about wanting to call their book ‘my struggle’.
My God! We must get this tubby miscreant locked up in a US jail for obscure reasons that make no sense ASAP, before others start feeling inclined to take the piss! Won’t somebody think of the tight-asses?
I think it’s a case of stoat versus weasel .
I truly hope you’re right and I’m wrong .
There’s something about this entire debacle that pongs to high heaven .
Isn’t it great to know that the majority of our Supreme Court judges, as well as our spy agencies, defence establishment, and government members, think that their highest calling is irrumation by Uncle Sam? We have taken a few faltering steps towards independence in the past. They must have scared our “betters” to the extent of involuntary bowel evacuations.
How the hell can judges in Aotearoa claim “natural justice was overruled by our international obligations and the purposes of our extradition treaty with the United States.”???????? There is something very, very sick and troubling here. My aspirations are not to be a citizen of a kumara republic, cringingly following orders from Washington.
How the hell can judges in Aotearoa claim “natural justice was overruled by our international obligations and the purposes of our extradition treaty with the United States.”?
This should be asked very loudly.
And if it later transpires in the US that the US did not act in good faith in disclosing relevant detail at the extradition hearing, that it withheld information damaging to its case, then what is NZ (or Dcom’s) comeback? None. Our courts will have been complicit in kangaroo court style summary delivery of injustice. Very disturbing indeed.
Let there be no doubt.The right wing side of the media(almost all of them), have gone completely,insanely,irrationally mental trying to build up as much credibility credit for Key as they can ,so as to try and weather the upcoming storm.And they are doing it on three fronts.
There’s the” looney,scarey” Greens.They talk way to much credible sense, so they need to be rubbished and put down at every turn.
There’s David Cunliffe.He’s just way too intelligent and statesman like and would make a very credible Prime Minister.A full on hour by hour smother assault is required here to make sure he gets no oxygen.
And now holy moly we have Kim Dot Com.Crikey .How is a media supposed to fit in any news when we have all this discrediting to get through.?
Yes folks; it’s a sad state of affairs, but this is exactly what’s going on.However,the law of averages tells us somethings got to give!
Please God…let Martin Bradbury be right on this…I’ll live a clean and virtuous life, I promise !!
This systematic blackguarding of Dotcom illustrates Key’s character to perfection – he’s a bad ‘un of a type long recognised and reviled in British political circles. ‘Honi soit qui mal y pense’ did not become a royal maxim by accident – it is a warning to rulers that calumniators are not to be trusted.
A good PM would avoid the likes of Whaleoil for just this reason, a dreadful one like Key finds in him instead a kindred spirit. Calumny was also Hitler’s weapon of choice:
” For over five years this man has been chasing around Europe like a madman in search of something he could set on fire.”
Hitler said it of Churchill, and Jung quoted it to illustrate the influence of the shadow personality. There are probably some interesting confessions in Key’s diatribes too.
Hope you are right Bomber something’s got to give
The only way we don’t get suckered in to propaganda is being aware of it and understanding what is behind the misinformation we are being fed.
This article assists us toward that end.
Thank you very much, Bradbury, for the heads up.
Why the Left need to defend Kim Dotcom
First they came for Ahmed Zouie, but I wasn’t a refugee and I did nothing.
Then they came for Tama Iti, but I wasn’t Tuhoe so I did nothing.
Then they came for Kim Dotcom, but I wasn’t an overweight German businessman, so I did nothing.
Then they came for me…..
We cannot decide who the government persecutes, but we could possibly decide to do nothing about it, to our everlasting shame.
If the Left roll over for this, we make it acceptable for the American State to persecute Bradely Manning and to apprehend Edward Snowden. We make it acceptable for our government and judiciary to ignore our own laws, at the behest of the US, to deliver anyone, resident or citizen, for anything, without evidence, into the tender mercies of the US gulag. Because three Right Wing and arguably corrupt, Supreme Court Judges have ruled: “despite the wording of our Act, natural justice was overruled by our international obligations and the purposes of our extradition treaty with the United States.”
The hall mark of the true Fascists is that they publicly demonise the ones they want to destroy, to remove their common humanity and empathy from the rest of us, so that we take their persecution lying down. In Germany in the 1930s Jews were demonised by the Nazis as pedophiles and rapists and murderers. In New Zealand Zouie and Iti were demonised as terrorists, (in Zoui’s case by the same French agencies that planted the bomb on the Rainbow Warrior.) In Kim Dotcom’s case the charge of terrorist would be ludicrous, so his persecutors have reached for a the recognised hate label of this time and place “German Nazi”. The truth is that those who descended on the Dotcom mansion dressed in black with their faces masked armed with automatic weapons and helicopters owe closer allegiance to the real Facists of old than New Zealanders should be comfortable with.
When Dotcom’s revelations finally come out I hope the left has a strategy planned as how to best use it. Because MSM won’t help.
Assuming it’s about Dishonest John’s claim to not knowing anything about DC before the time of the raids, Dishonest John will predictably use State security as an excuse for not being fully open about all he knew. It’ll be a case off shrug and ‘I wasn’t at liberty to reveal’ matters relating to operational details of security apparatus. I wouldn’t write off that Teflon suit if he has a compliant MSM willing to bury the issue.
My guess is that is the line Key will attempt to use as well, but the counter criticism will be, but you lied. He could have said, ‘no comment’ when asked when he was first briefed on Kim Dotcom. He could have used the national security blanket right up the front of this, but he didn’t. He lied and he continued lying by repeating the lie every time he made it. The Prime Minister can’t lie to the people. Full stop. We know the Prime Minister can with hold, or side step, but they can’t lie. No matter what.
We need more of a narrative than that though. If being proven a liar was enough to damage Key, Cunliffe would be running against Collins or Joyce already.
“The truth is that those who descended on the Dotcom mansion dressed in black with their faces masked armed with automatic weapons and helicopters owe closer allegiance to the real Facists of old than New Zealanders should be comfortable with.”
Perceptive comment, Jenny. We need to remember how this all started, and how complicit our government agencies were.
Great post Mr Bradbury.
Just a technical point, re Martyn’s post. Edward Snowden doesn’t release anything. When he got to Hong Kong he gave everything to selected journalists, didn’t take any files to Russia with him, and left the judgement on publication up to the selected journalists he had given the files to. Glenn Greenwald explained this on Intercept: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/03/23/facts-nsa-stories-reported/
Bomber – you are dreaming
Nothing will damage Key’s “credibility” – he could literally sell the nation and it’s people, including his mum and the majority of kiwi’s would still prefer him as PM.
I don’t know what is wrong with the people of this country, but anything he has done and will do in the future most people seem to gloss over… You got to face it, the people in this country have lost their values. They think a money hungry sociopath is a wonderboy and a “good kiwi bloke”.
Also if Dotcom really had something on Key why would he not have already revealed it publicly? Even though you seem pretty certain that Dotcom is going to deliver a “knock-out blow”, I think you have also neglected to note the recent public sentiment swing against Dotcom… Frankly I don’t think you’ll see any right- wing people taking any interest in anything negative that comes out about their dear leader.
Frankly he has lied about more things than Dotcom and been caught out, yet nothing happened.
I think you are totally overestimating how the Key fans will react even if it was categorically proven Key lied… Most would probably shrug it off with “I don’t like Dotocom anyway – happy for him to be extradited”
The MSM all want to be part of the John Key Show and have their turn to prostrate themselves before him and lick his boots. Then after that fix wears off they want to do it again and again. If John Key is not re-elected the show will end its second season and they won’t be able to satisfy that urge anymore, so they will do whatever it takes to keep the show going into a third season.
The National Party publicity machine is like professional wrestling. We have John Key and Bill English, the good guys (faces) against the bad guys (heels) David Cunliffe and Russel Norman. Everyone wants the faces to win and punish the heels. The fans (the New Zealand public) lap up all the posturing and when the faces use illegal tactics against the heels then they applaud because those hoons deserve it. When the heels use illegal tactics against the faces then the fans boo and hiss becaue it isn’t fair. The ringside commentators, egging the fans on are Matthew Hooton, Cameron Slater and David Farrar. The National Party should remember that in professional wrestling, sometimes the heels win.
NZ is fast resembling a Kumara Republic, cronyism and the law have always gone hand in hand here in NZ, the Brotherhood is alive and well.
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