Citizen A with Jacinda Ardern & Keith Locke

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Citizen A with Jacinda Ardern & Keith Locke

Issue 1: What are to be made of Bob Jonses’ extraordinarily ignorant and offensive comments on Rape?

Issue 2: Crime rates are down – clever Policing or clever massaging of the stats?

and Issue 3 this evening – If crime is down why are we building new private prisons?

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  1. There is an interesting show from “This American Life” about how police officers were made to manipulate crime statistics to make their bosses look good. And what happened to one who wouldn’t.
    Act 2
    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent
    (but Act 1 is pretty funny so worth listening too.)

    Campbell’s law is pertinent here…

    “The more any quantitative social indicator (or even some qualitative indicator) is used for social decision-making, the more subject it will be to corruption pressures and the more apt it will be to distort and corrupt the social processes it is intended to monitor.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_law

    • Well, she did say that there was a global discussion going on and that we weren’t in the discussion.

      I think Labour are still too scared of the conservatives and won’t go anywhere near legalising cannabis any time in the near future even though it’s obvious that doing so reduces the social harm caused by prohibition.

  2. I can’t wait to see the next Bob Jones column that will LOUDLY remind everyone not to rape. There are police, there will always be police and an entire system built to hold you to account for your actions.

    I’m sure he will also remind readers that even though that hot mess walking half naked in the dead of night through the remote forrest was intoxicated, if you choose to rape it will make no difference in the eyes of the law.

    Let’s hope the rape culture that Jones represents dies along with his generation.

  3. One of the big questions in media discussions on law is whether a victimless crime is actually a crime.

    Perhaps the biggest area where this might be a factor is around drug use. Most research shows that Marijuana doesn’t really have any negative effects, except for the user’s long term memory.
    Potentially there may be negative effects around fertiliser use, similar to tobacco, where sticky oils collect radioactive elements present in the fertilisers.
    The harmful effects of overuse of fertiliser would be the main contributing factor of course.

    In regards to the rape debate, research suggests that control is the motivating factor.
    Until our social model no longer relies on controlling others, violent crime is likely to continue being a factor.
    Reducing the amount of control that the rich can exert on society, as well as policing/governing by consent should be priorities.
    It is something that should also be taken on by families raising kids. Kids want to be like their role models, so be an example for them to follow. Self-improvement through mindfulness meditation techniques can help you to be calmer and have more empathy and compassion. Kids can then take this on-board to be more successful in their own lives.

    With the TPP in the headlines, unlawful practices by companies such as Monsanto, Walmart, Halliburton and JPMorgan should be considered to be the biggest threat to law and order in New Zealand.
    Just think about hypocrisy of allowing the rich to get away with financing murder, while police are locking people up for snacking on a hash cookie…
    If the TPP goes through, the law changes will increase inequality and prop up a corrupt, dying business model that should be allowed to fail.

  4. After seeing that it’s obvious that a lot of people need to see this and, to quote QoT, “A small thought experiment: how many times do you find yourself trying to “figure out” the gender of the attacker in the mens’ article, versus the women’s?”.

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