So let me get this straight – John Key’s response to the illegal spying by the GCSB – just as it was when the NZ Police were caught illegally spying – is to just pass legislation to make the illegal spying legal??????
The issue is that the SIS and the NZ Police do not have the vast intelligence spying apparatus available to the GCSB, and the loophole they have been using to get around the GCSB not being able to use their spy base on NZers is the SIS or Police sending a bloody warrant to the GCSB.
That’s all they have to do to circumvent the law.
I love the nonchalance that Key uses, just shrugging at the obviousness of turning the spy base on NZers because the SIS and the NZ Police don’t have their own spy base to use.
This follows vast new search and surveillance powers for the Police in what is the largest erosion of civil liberties since the Waterfront lockouts and new powers for the military to arrest citizens protesting on the water.
Fellow NZers – you do understand that Key is about to allow the Eye of Mordor that is the GCSB to legally be allowed to spy on domestic targets and citizens all at the whim of the SIS and NZ Police.
We are all Kim Dotcom today.
William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
THE SECOND COMING
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
its coming around to The (last) Stand slowly; you can Flagg that.
(Wonderful words).
Orwell warned about development of a ‘Big Brother’ society 65 years ago…. the two-way ‘telescreen’, the helicopter that snoops into windows, the ‘Ministry of Love’ that tortures those who step out of line, the ‘Ministry of Truth’ that churns out propaganda……
Sadly, Orwell’s warning to the masses went unheeded, and the global elites took ‘1984’ as a model to implement.
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
This will not end with the Ring being cast into the fire. The Orcs have already won.
As Frankie Howard might have said of the masses: “Maximus dumbdownicus.”
Colour me unsurprised.
Legalising illegal actions committed by law enforcement and security agencies instead of holding them accountable is comparable to opening Pandora’s Box. It potentially incentivises said agencies to further warp their permitted means to operate.
Undoubtedly this country is becoming more authoritarian under this government. Why? With the current system faltering and possibly more people becoming aware, is this how it will extend its life? I don’t like it at all, how the people can allow themselves potentially to fall under tyranny eludes me.
Among those subject to illegal spying are possibly activists. How long will it be before the lives of dissident bloggers and readers become subject to surveillance?
Because over the years of representative democracy the people have been slowly but surely losing their power and now that the fix is in all they feel is the powerlessness. The unions were the bulwark that would have stopped this loss of power but the 4th Labour government put in place the means to destroy them and then the 4th National government did exactly that.
We are here, being exploited, because our representatives started to represent only the rich and blamed everyone else for them being poor.
Possibly activists? Basically, they will go through their garbage (online especially) and then leak all their “sins” to the media.
I think they do more than that David. Do you know what technology/actions they are capable of using? I don’t think we should minimise their actions.
I think they do more than that David. Do you know what technology/actions they are capable of using? I don’t think we should minimise the impact of their actions on the people in their sights.
I’d say they’ve been collecting info on dissident bloggers for a while now. Spies are like school prefects. They have no idea why they exist and whether what they do is required, but they do it with a slavish and unquestioning devotion. When you combine this with a government which sees democracy and the governed as nothing but nuisances, the future does not look bright at all.
Have the NZ police got any of those tiny drones yet?
Yes, one so far. Not that that means much. Drones could be used well but the actions of the police over the years shows that that’s unlikely and that they’ll be abused instead.
We live in an apathetic society, most of the masses think that if government agencies (well they think they are government agencies for a start) that if you are being spied upon then that is fine because you must be guilty of something.
The whole thing is a real disgrace and very scary given Key knew about it last July.
Everyone should be named and apologised to just as Dotcom was.
How on earth these goons thought they could do this legally is beyond me, the legislation is very clear.
Great picture and label!
Trained by Merrill Lynch to lead the corporate fascist takeover. Enchanted by his role … loving all things American. “Welcome to Oceania” he would say, if he could get Obama’s … ahem … name out of his mouth for long enough. 1984 or 1981 … that’s the choice.
Just because you pass a law, does not make it legal forever…
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